Hall Monitor: Time Sensitive

Kingston City Council Meetings, #ygkcLast night, our city council met off-site again, for the second meeting of the two… uh, make that five… of our meetings on the road and met in the Kingston Room at the Vimy Officer’s Mess at CFB Kingston. We had no Councillor George for this meeting due to a death in the family. As usual, the agenda and addeds are on the city website. This meeting, by the way, is the first of the 2013 calendar, and officially marks the more-than-halfway mark in council’s term – there are now less weeks left to the next municipal election than have passed since the last.

The meeting last night ran long – but the motion to extend beyond an item early in our agenda (In a CAO report) and time sensitive items lost, meaning the majority of the meeting is being bumped to out next meeting, including motions on the Belle Park Golf Course and committee reports from Planning, Heritage, Administrative Policies, Arts and Recreation, EITP and Accessibility. In the end, council gathered a lot of information and heard from a number of delegations – and they asked staff to research the impacts of a living wage policy. But not much else. Guess we’ll see the rest soon.

Technical issues (slow wifi) prevented a stream of either audio or video, but the full tweet stream is below. The Mayor may call a special meeting of council to finish last night’s agenda – but it’s unlikely given the holidays – if he does, I’ll try to be there. Otherwise, our next scheduled meeting will be on December 18th at Memorial Hall.

  • 7:14 PM: Settling in at the Vimy Mess for tonight’s council meeting. Running without power – may not have the camera up. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:19 PM: Power acquired. Wifi is weak, but present. Should be a good, but long, night. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:21 PM: I don’t have the big tripod with me, though, so the camera POV isn’t going to be the greatest. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:25 PM: Weak wifi means the stream software is having a tough time loading. I’ll tweet live, will get the camera up as soon as I can. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:35 PM: Looks like we’re getting started a little late. Still fighting with A/V stuff. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:38 PM: Council is filing in now – should be getting started shortly. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:39 PM: Remember, you can follow along with tonight’s agenda at http://t.co/XARikQ47 #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:42 PM: Will continue to fight with the camera through the meeting. Mayor and council are getting seated now. Big gallery tonight. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:43 PM: We have a pretty packed agenda tonight, including several deferrals from our last meeting at @QueensU. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:45 PM: And we’re off. @MayorOfKingston has a few signs removed from the gallery, and we’re recapping the closed meeting. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:47 PM: .@MayorOfKingston is commenting on the dim lights, which were donated by City Hall to the venue. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:47 PM: We get no report from the closed meeting, @MayorOfKingston is thanking CFB Kingston for hosting us. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:49 PM: Addeds, with an amendment to add a delegation, pass. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:51 PM: Disclosures from Coun. Hutchison, two related to the budget, and several more for tonight based on his employer. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:52 PM: We seem to be skipping presentations for now and have launched into a delegation from Frank Dixon of Friends of Belle Park. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:52 PM: We’ve got one from Coun. Downes, publicly declaring a conflict from the closed meeting. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:54 PM: Dixon says that youth golfers aren’t being given the opportunity to get memberships. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:56 PM: Dixon says that Belle Park was profitable as recently in 2005, but the financial history has been hard to confirm. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:57 PM: Also says that multiple attempts to get the history and financials of the course from City Staff with no success. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:58 PM: Coun. Osanic is asking about the potential impact of a fee doubling. Dixon says a sudden doubling would fail, proposes 10%/yr. #ygkc ^TV
  • 7:58 PM: … Adds that the potential loss of QECVI, plus now potentially Belle Park, would be a large setback for the city’s north end. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:00 PM: No more questions from council. @MayorOfKingston says that council should have corrected him for skipping presentations. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:00 PM: Dixon says that the the golf course needs better delegations of staff duties. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:01 PM: @MayorOfKingston is presenting Base Commander Cadden with a thank you gift for hosting council tonight. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:02 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that the city is unique in it’s agreement with the base and that they have a great working relationship. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:03 PM: Cadden apologizes for the bar not being open. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:03 PM: Cadden takes the mic to thank the city for the gift, which will hang in the mess after we leave. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:04 PM: We’re now back to delegations, Helene Hanna from the Kingston Faith and Justice Coalition on Living Wage. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:06 PM: We hear a recap about the living wage report, which reported that a living wage in #ygk is $16.29/hr. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:09 PM: Motion on the floor tonight will have staff investigate a living wage policy for the city. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:10 PM: RT @VieiraFlyTrap I feel like I’m at the library, lower your voices! Journalists working. #ssshhh Spread the word! #ygkc
  • 8:12 PM: We move into the added delegation on the declaration for December 6th against violence against women. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:13 PM: Delegation says there has been an increase in violent acts and sexual acts against women. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:14 PM: The group here tonight is from We Don’t Stop Kingston; who’re here to ask the community to act in addition to remembering. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:15 PM: The group has placed trees at the JDUC and at the Central KFPL branch asking for pledges. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:17 PM: A Vigil is planned at Wallace Hall on @QueensU campus, Dec 6 at 6pm. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:18 PM: Delegates spoke to the blue lights at @QueensU, @DorothyAHector is now asking about the game played with them. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:19 PM: Delegate says there have been 327 malicious triggers last year. This year, already more than 90. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:19 PM: The game is to trigger the light, chug a beer, and tape the beer to the pole. Campus Security treats every light as high priority. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:23 PM: The delegation isn’t upset with the punishment for people who are caught, but most people aren’t caught. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:25 PM: The bar badge is sold online, and distributed through student entities. @MayorOfKingston asks for more information about the bars. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:27 PM: I’ve gone to the phone as the agenda moves to a briefing on the funding of Providence Care. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:28 PM: Our briefing is from John McKendrick of Infrastructure Ontario. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:29 PM: McKendrick says that the private sector is always involved in construction; architects, builders and so on. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:30 PM: Infrastructure Ontario has built numerous hospitals, including the expansion recently at Hotel Dieu. ^TV #ygkc
  • 8:34 PM: @C_Vilela I’m assuming theyre using Sept – Aug calendar, they didn’t specify. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:35 PM: Technical issues are going to prevent my #ygkc stream from happening tonight. Sorry, #ygk. I tried. :-( #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:37 PM: @brenda_slomka @MayorOfKingston My understanding is that it’s not stores, it’s online and student-to-student. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:38 PM: Gallery tries to ask questions of the delegate, to warnings from @MayorOfKingston. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:39 PM: Downes asks about ownership of the hospital after 30 year warranty. Delegate says the hospital is, from day one, owned by public. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:43 PM: Delegation responds that he could invest, but a reminder that he can lose everything. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:43 PM: Downes is asking about investment returns and if he can invest, @MayorOfKingston restricts him to questions. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:46 PM: Coun. Hutchison asks about the contracts IO use, delegate says all contracts are available to the public online. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:48 PM: Coun. Hutchison asking about why a model like this would be used. Delegate says that financing costs are usually lower. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:52 PM: Coun. Osanic asking about if Infrastructure Ontario pays a Fair Wage. Delegate says that most employees are unionized. #ygkc ^TV
  • 8:53 PM: …Adds that Hamilton asked them to amend the contract specifically for their fair wage policy, which they did.
  • 8:59 PM: Think I’m finally back up and running. We’re getting questions from Coun. Glover and @JimNeill3. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:02 PM: Delegate says that there’s a greater chance of job loss under traditional model. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:02 PM: @JimNeill3 asks about consortium operations. Wants to know about assurances for long-term employee wages. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:04 PM: We pass through petitions, and into emotional motions. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:06 PM: Emotionals all clear, into deferrals. Council approves hearing an update from CFB Kingston at Jan 8th meeting. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:07 PM: Motion to ask staff to research and create a Living Wage policy for the city’s employees. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:08 PM: The report would come back to the ARCP in September, 2013. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:09 PM: Coun. Glover asks how far this should go. Wonders if it would go to third party agencies and services the city uses. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:11 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that discussions with staff and him in private are occasionally needed to conduct meeting. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:11 PM: @JimNeill3 calls @MayorOfKingston on a point of order. The Mayor is asking the Solicitor a question in private. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:12 PM: Coun. Glover is commenting on various wages that some professions, at various levels, receive. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:14 PM: @MayorOfKingston adds comment to his earlier pt of order ruling, that he doesn’t have as much freedom to move during mtg. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:16 PM: Both Coun. Osanic and @JimNeill3 speak in support of the motion. @JimNeill3 says that min. wage earners often need food bank. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:17 PM: @JimNeill3 says that this policy would set the city as an exemplar employer, and may pressure the private sector to match. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:19 PM: .@JimNeill3 says he’s looking forward to seeing the costs; comments that the bulk of city staff are already above the living wage. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:20 PM: A recorded vote on this is asked for from @JimNeill3 when we get there. Should note that Coun. George is absent due to a death. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:20 PM: Coun. Hutchison comments on how modest the living wage, roughly $30.5k/yr, is. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:22 PM: Coun. Hutchison says the motion to get this information is important. Says employers benefit by paying a living wage, too. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:23 PM: Coun. Hutchison says the proposed wage helps community. Lvng wage earners don’t have room in that budget to save, it’s all spent. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:24 PM: @DorothyAHector says that the issue is more complex than just calculating the cost to live in a city. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:26 PM: … adds that assuming a part time student should get a living wage is a problem. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:26 PM: @DorothyAHector says that income comes down to supply/demand. Says the $16.29/h is the cost of an un-skilled labourer. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:27 PM: @DorothyAHector says she’s seen two things happen where similar policies are enacted: Increased cost, or decreased staff. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:28 PM: … adds that the wage item isn’t a strategic priority of this council and therefore won’t be supporting this. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:28 PM: @DorothyAHector says that a lot of the people/groups that the city does business with aren’t in #ygk, they’re outside. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:30 PM: Coun. Paterson is concerned about the concept of being able to wave a magic wand to make the issues of the working poor disappear. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:31 PM: Coun. Paterson: City hires hundreds of students at minimum wage. This policy means less hires, and higher youth unemployment. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:32 PM: Coun. Paterson isn’t in support, wants staff to focus time and energy on items that will make a bigger impact than a few staff. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:33 PM: Coun. Osanic favours the motion, is glad it won’t affect many because that means the city’s costs too much. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:34 PM: Coun. Downes says that it can’t always be supply/demand. That argument makes it hard to do things (like set a min wage) #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:39 PM: Coun. Downes is saying that this is a modest request before being cut off at his 5-minute mark. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:40 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that the motion as-is is out of order based on where the policy is going. Needs to go to APC. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:41 PM: Some debate now between @MayorOfKingston and Coun. Glover on where this needs to go. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:42 PM: So, it looks like this will go to APC by default, and there will be a 2/3rds to add that it go to ARCP. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:43 PM: @DorothyAHector is asking for clarification on what happens if the committees disagree, who gets to recommend. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:44 PM: Clerk is suggesting that the votes take place now, and the mess of who takes priority come later. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:46 PM: @councillorberg says that issue touches on the social pillar of council, supports data, but is reserved about implementation. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:47 PM: @BrianReitzel says that he is in support of the motion, but adds that poverty is more than just what people are paid to work. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:50 PM: @MayorOfKingston turns the chair to @JimNeill3 since we have no Dep. Mayor tonight. Supports the idea and research. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:51 PM: @MayorOfKingston is concerned about the artificial inflation increase if too many communities implement a similar policy. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:52 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that there are other means that can be done to contribute to better qualities of life. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:54 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks staff if they have the resources. CAO says they mostly do, may need to add consultants. Timeline is doable. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:55 PM: We are approaching 10:00pm, by the way, and still haven’t hit any new motions, still in deferred. #longnight #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:56 PM: Coun. Glover reaffirms that this fits strategic plan, says the city needs to be a leader by implementing Sust. Kingston plan. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:57 PM: Coun. Glover says that this will affect a number of people; not in-house staff, necessarily, but students. #ygkc ^TV
  • 9:58 PM: Coun. Glover says that passing this will help break families out of poverty. Reminds that living wage is based on two incomes. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:00 PM: Fourth clause Result: Lost 7-5 | REQ: JN | Yea: BG, RH, JN, LO, LS | Nay: SB, RD, MG, DH, BP, BR, JS #rv #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:00 PM: Result: Pass 9-3 | REQ: JN | Yea: SB, RD, MG, BG, RH, JN, LO, BR, LS | Nay: DH, BP, JS #rv #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:00 PM: Vote time. First three clauses first, then the 4th to add the waive and add to ARCP. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:01 PM: Report 1 from the CAO. @MayorOfKingston comments that this is the start of the meeting, and half-way point of their term. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:03 PM: Staff is requesting withdrawal of item e. That passes. Items a, i, f are being separated. Vote on the balance passes. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:04 PM: We’re into questions on the amendment of the lease for The Keg in the city’s building behind Market Square. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:06 PM: The item is on the sale of their shares in the lease. Questions about the 10-year lease length. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:08 PM: We move to f, the disposal of 7 Wright Cr for affordable housing purposes. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:08 PM: Item a passes. Item f, which was separated due to Coun. Hutchison’s conflict, passes, too. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:09 PM: Coun. Glover is asking about increasing the requirement of affordable units. Staff says that detail would be in the RFP process. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:10 PM: The process, right now, begins with seeking interested parties and if land needs to be separated. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:11 PM: Coun. Glover adds to his questions, which @MayorOfKingston says are questions for the RFP process, not RFI. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:13 PM: @JimNeill3 asking if the RFI is reaching out to the public or just the housing sectors. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:14 PM: The RFI process is for people interested in acquiring the land with the intent of using the land for housing. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:14 PM: Commissioner says that the RFI is open to the public, but this isn’t public consultation or public meeting. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:15 PM: @MayorOfKingston stopping @JimNeill3 from some questions: Says council is here to conduct biz of council, not educate the public. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:16 PM: @MayorOfKingston is ruling @JimNeill3 out of order on questions about how the public will be notified of RFI. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:17 PM: @JimNeill3 asking about expectations of the land when it was bought by the city. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:17 PM: @JimNeill3 asking about expectations of the land when it was bought by the city.
  • 10:18 PM: Staff says that the city said they told previous owner that the land would be used for affordable housing, not in sale agreement. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:19 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that it’s coming as an RFI instead of RFP at his request, based on existing public feedback. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:20 PM: Wright Cr item passes, and we move into Report two. We start with a presentation from Jim Keech. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:21 PM: Briefing from Keech is to let #ygkc know about a change in the provincial safe drinking water act, in effect Jan 1, 2013. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:23 PM: Question from Coun. Scott about obligations of council to protect priv. wells. Staff says that this act is reg. municipal systems. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:26 PM: Item to receive the update from UK on the Safe Drinking Water Act is approved. We move to interim emergency shelter funding. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:27 PM: Question about why bridge funding is needed. Staff says that long-term funding is going to be part of upcoming homelessness plan. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:28 PM: Staff says, too, that they are still awaiting word back on the status of Dawn House. Current board is planning on closing. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:29 PM: Item passes with @JimNeill3 in the chair, @MayorOfKingston comes back, and we movve to the Belle Park item. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:30 PM: Coun. Downes is asking about hoe the proposed solar panels (30 acres) would be installed. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:31 PM: This proposal, btw, suggests ending the golf course after next year, and creating an open park (56a) and a solar farm (30a) #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:32 PM: Comm. Hurdle clarifies that the land has no clay cap above the landfill right now. Installation of such would be appx $15m. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:33 PM: Coun. Downes says that the facility is often used by seniors and modest income earners to stay active. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:34 PM: Coun. Downes says that some “themes” in the city are developing: Cutting costs, increasing profits. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:36 PM: Coun. Downes says that Belle Park is the only place where people with a modest income can golf. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:37 PM: (Aside: Due to my bandwidth limits, I am having a difficult time following replies, tonight. Sorry.) :-( #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:38 PM: Coun. Hutchison asking about the panel installation. Staff says that panels that settle can be adjusted. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:39 PM: Commissioner says that those details would be applied and weighed during the design phase of the farm. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:39 PM: Coun. Glover refers to Coun. Scott’s comments on setbacks and large fences. Doesn’t seem to fit in a park. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:41 PM: Coun. Glover asks about viability. Commissioner says that an energy company did confirm that it could work on the site. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:42 PM: Coun. Glover asks if the city has profited from the existing panels. Staff says not yet. Coun. Glover says he won’t support this. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:43 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks for a motion to extend, as it’s 10:45. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:43 PM: Coun. Glover says that there hasn’t been capital spending on the park recently, says there’s a connection to membership decline. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:44 PM: Motion to extend to the end of this item and all time sensitive loses. We jump straight to time sensitive items. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:45 PM: Our first time sensitive item is Report 9 from the Nominations Committee. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:46 PM: To clarify The bulk of tonight’s agenda will be deferred. We’ll see it come up at the next meeting of #ygkc. ^TV
  • 10:47 PM: The item to appoint to boards and committees passes, and Coun. Downes calls a Pt. of Personal Priv. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:48 PM: Coun. Downes is wondering how he can be nominated for a committee he didn’t ask or approve to be on. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:49 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that technically speaking, council can make any appointments. Clerk says he was not appointed. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:51 PM: We’re on an item about term limits. @JimNeill3 says that this 6-year limit doesn’t always fit, and goes against other rules. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:52 PM: The item carries, with a recorded opposed from @JimNeill3. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:52 PM: Coun. Paterson says that the resolve clause specifically says that they should consider it and respond back to the committee. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:53 PM: @MayorOfKingston rules information report 4 as time sensitive, despite the lack of notation on agenda. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:54 PM: @MayorOfKingston says that the new SMG contract would be signed before the next meeting of council. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:55 PM: @JimNeill3 is asking about potential $60k pmt from SMG corporate. CAO says staff has always expected, and still does expect, pmt. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:56 PM: CAO says that SMG has been cooperating with KEDCO and the city to collect money from iSport. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:58 PM: CAO says that the 60k agreement happened in October. Says some collection process was ongoing into late August. #ygkc ^TV
  • 10:58 PM: CAO says that SMG has offered to front the 60k and that the collective (City, KEDCO, SMG) would proceed with collections. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:00 PM: CAO says that they weren’t in discussions about collections while also in discussions about a new contract. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:03 PM: City solicitor is discussing how the money was supposed to flow. SMG followed, by his understanding, what they were supposed to. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:04 PM: @JimNeill3 asking about if the first 150k of ticket revenue was supposed to have flowed to the city.
  • 11:05 PM: Agreement 2 was between city and KEDCO about the 150k. Agreement 3 was between all three partners. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:05 PM: Solicitor says there were four agreements. First is between KEDCO and iSport, signed after council approved 150k from city. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:06 PM: Agreement 3 says that iSport agreed to pay SMG as soon as KEDCO paid them, and KEDCO would get money back from tickets. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:07 PM: Because iSport failed to pay SMG, though, there was prior claim on the money, so money was not there for KEDCO. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:08 PM: The fourth agreement is the management agreement. Says promoter (iSport) would pay the costs. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:09 PM: @JimNeill3 asking about enforcement of contracts and which one takes priority. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:10 PM: … adds that within that context; says that the Oct 31 agmt (#3), was premised on iSport paying the costs – they didn’t. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:10 PM: Solicitor says that the four agreements are not independent – need to be interpreted as a collection. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:12 PM: Coun. Downes asking about a pair of paragraphs that were struct through in one of the contracts. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:13 PM: The paragraphs, specifically, determined who would be responsible for the books and records. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:17 PM: Coun. Downes is asking staff if they know where iSport’s CEO is. Staff says all records indicate he is in Toronto. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:19 PM: City solicitor says that heresay says that the director says he will pay when he makes money from another event. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:20 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks for clarification about timelines – wants to know when the city knew that iSport would miss obligation. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:21 PM: Solicitor says that it was just before the event (Dec ’11), when the second 75k was paid to iSport, but not directed to SMG. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:23 PM: Coun. Hutchison asks why SMG would be willing the cover the 60k. Solicitor says that it’s a good faith act. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:24 PM: Coun. Hutchison asks if the city would take the same type of risk again. CAO says the agreements were good… #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:25 PM: … and that, when signed, all parties seemed reputable. Says that lessons were learned about where/how to advance money. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:26 PM: CAO says that future advancements would go to the facility instead of the promoter. Council shouldn’t assume all deals will be bad #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:27 PM: Coun. Hutchison asks staff if KEDCO did their due diligence. Jeff Garrah says that they do feel that they did enough research. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:28 PM: We really had no signal about things going awry with this deal – Jeff Garrah of KEDCO says. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:29 PM: KEDCO says that there have been some learning experiences, but wasn’t much more they could have done about iSport or the people. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:30 PM: @councillorberg is concerned about event perceptions with the upcoming Scotties tournament. Wants other positive measurables. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:31 PM: Event saw 17000 attendees and exceeded financial guarantees, was profitable. +$2m impact to the community. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:32 PM: .@BrianReitzel asks when KEDCO became aware of the iSport default on payment. KEDCO says they weren’t aware before event. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:33 PM: KEDCO got a cheque for 160k in Jan from SMG, then got notice from SMG that they were stopping it due to iSport’s missed pmt. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:34 PM: @BrianReitzel asks abt failure of communication btwn city and KEDCO. KEDCO says there isn’t, but that SMG could have spoke up. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:35 PM: KEDCO says the cancelled cheque was for the 150k, plus the 40% profit coming back to KEDCO. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:36 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks if the city signed a contract for this event. Solicitor says that SMG has oblg. to make sure KRC is paid. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:38 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks abt details of the relationship between the city and SMG; who loses money when SMG’s agmts fall through. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:41 PM: @MayorOfKingston asks the solicitor about the 60k offer from SMG and his confidence about the receipt of the money. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:42 PM: Solicitor confirms the offer from SMG is in writing, is confident that the money will arrive. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:43 PM: @MayorOfKingston pushes to know if the city has a legal leg if SMG doesn’t. Solicitor reaffirms he is confident they will pay. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:44 PM: @JimNeill3 asking about how SMG still sees this as receivable. Solicitor says SMG just kept the share that they were supposed to. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:45 PM: Solicitor says that the 60k will be added to the SMG receivable – they will pursue iSport for it. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:46 PM: @JimNeill3 asks KEDCO about timelines. KEDCO says they sent this item to their finance cmtee in Sept/Oct #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:47 PM: CAO says that at the time of the meeting for contract extension, staff was still under impression that the money was forthcoming. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:47 PM: @JimNeill3 is wondering why staff, or the members of council who are on KEDCO, didn’t inform council of the issues. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:49 PM: @JimNeill3 asks a “final question” of KEDCO about add’l profits from rentals, concessions and merchandising. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:49 PM: CAO says that they attempted to maintain integrity of the RFP process. Collection was pursuing separately. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:50 PM: KEDCO says that the 150k was from ticket sales. @MayorOfKingston redirects to staff to find out if they know of revenues. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:51 PM: Staff says that the operator takes a margin of food and beverage, but all others come to the city. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:51 PM: Solicitor says that the money for those items is not SMG’s, it’s city money as it stands. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:53 PM: We finish info reports, pass the motion declaring Dec 6th as a national day of remembarance in Kingston. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:54 PM: Motion that re-locates the next three #ygkc meetings passes. Clerk, on question from Coun. Glover, says work should be done by Feb #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:55 PM: Thanks for following along. We’ll re-cap tomorrow on the site. #ygkc ^TV
  • 11:55 PM: We’re into by-laws. All pass, Adjournment at 11:54pm. #ygkc ^TV

Thanks to reneilet for today’s original photo.

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