Comments on: Battery Park http://www.kingstonist.com/2010/07/06/battery-park/ News, Politics, Events, Music, Art, Theatre, Restaurants, Sports, Environment, Everything and Anything in Kingston, Ontario. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:01:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Harvey Kirkpatrick http://www.kingstonist.com/2010/07/06/battery-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3209 Harvey Kirkpatrick Tue, 06 Jul 2010 20:06:07 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=6601#comment-3209 Not sure about the lawyer comment, as there's nothing overly safe about the tumble-stone. From a liability point of view it could be a nightmare for City Lawyers, however Personal Injury Lawyers are likely salivating at the possibilities. Fully agree with your comment about developers though. They have more of a say in this City than council, and the rest of us combined. Not sure about the lawyer comment, as there's nothing overly safe about the tumble-stone. From a liability point of view it could be a nightmare for City Lawyers, however Personal Injury Lawyers are likely salivating at the possibilities. Fully agree with your comment about developers though. They have more of a say in this City than council, and the rest of us combined.

]]> By: Harvey Kirkpatrick http://www.kingstonist.com/2010/07/06/battery-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3208 Harvey Kirkpatrick Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:57:46 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=6601#comment-3208 Thanks for the insight regarding the different capabilities of the materials in question here. So you either get something that last longer and does not permit access (rip-rap, tumble stone etc...), or you go with something a bit less effective, which permits access (corrugated metal seawall). From a recreational and boater's point of view, the corrugated metal option is preferred. Having said that, can you comment on the longevity and cost of these options? Specifically, how frequent does corrugated metal have to be replaced, and what is the cost in comparison to tumble-stone? Thanks for the insight regarding the different capabilities of the materials in question here. So you either get something that last longer and does not permit access (rip-rap, tumble stone etc…), or you go with something a bit less effective, which permits access (corrugated metal seawall). From a recreational and boater's point of view, the corrugated metal option is preferred.

Having said that, can you comment on the longevity and cost of these options? Specifically, how frequent does corrugated metal have to be replaced, and what is the cost in comparison to tumble-stone?

]]> By: matt http://www.kingstonist.com/2010/07/06/battery-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3207 matt Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:46:37 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=6601#comment-3207 The Rip-Rap stone shoreline (or tumble stone) as well as the metal sheet pile seawall (or corrugated metal seawall) are both erosion protection measures. The company I work for does some marine engineering around this city of Kingston and it has been my experience that the city believes the rip-rap is a more effective method of erosion prevention due to the fact that the metal wall will eventually corrode and need to be replaced. The big drawback as you mentioned is it makes the shoreline completely unusable, so where’s the trade-off? The Rip-Rap stone shoreline (or tumble stone) as well as the metal sheet pile seawall (or corrugated metal seawall) are both erosion protection measures. The company I work for does some marine engineering around this city of Kingston and it has been my experience that the city believes the rip-rap is a more effective method of erosion prevention due to the fact that the metal wall will eventually corrode and need to be replaced. The big drawback as you mentioned is it makes the shoreline completely unusable, so where’s the trade-off?

]]> By: Gord Campbell http://www.kingstonist.com/2010/07/06/battery-park/comment-page-1/#comment-3206 Gord Campbell Tue, 06 Jul 2010 19:39:12 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=6601#comment-3206 The tumble-stone was more than likely installed specifically to limit the use of the shoreline. A combination of hand-wringing liability lawyers and a desire to "own" the entire space will do that. I was born here and came home again after college. This entire project is a perfect example of how the city continues to disappoint its citizens. It could have been so much more, but they can't see beyond granting exemptions to height restrictions to allow Kingston's favourite landlord developer to build yet more high-rises. Sigh. The compass rose IS kind of nice, though. The tumble-stone was more than likely installed specifically to limit the use of the shoreline. A combination of hand-wringing liability lawyers and a desire to "own" the entire space will do that.

I was born here and came home again after college. This entire project is a perfect example of how the city continues to disappoint its citizens. It could have been so much more, but they can't see beyond granting exemptions to height restrictions to allow Kingston's favourite landlord developer to build yet more high-rises. Sigh.

The compass rose IS kind of nice, though.

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