Comments on: On Third Crossings and Other Mythical Beasts http://www.kingstonist.com/2009/04/27/on-third-crossings-and-other-mythical-beasts/ News, Politics, Events, Music, Art, Theatre, Restaurants, Sports, Environment, Everything and Anything in Kingston, Ontario. Wed, 08 Feb 2012 22:01:57 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: RicoJ http://www.kingstonist.com/2009/04/27/on-third-crossings-and-other-mythical-beasts/comment-page-1/#comment-955 RicoJ Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:02:07 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=1264#comment-955 Like tens of thousands of people in Pittsburgh Township and points East, Northeast, and North, I'm looking forward to the third crossing. The main reason for me (and for many others, I presume): to never, ever again be forced to shop downtown or deal with the ridiculous light-at-every-corner-even-at-off-peak-times traffic we find there. The crossing will turn a 20-minute excursion to shopping in the West-end into a 10-minute excursion. Bring it on! And seriously: screw Springerville. Like tens of thousands of people in Pittsburgh Township and points East, Northeast, and North, I’m looking forward to the third crossing.

The main reason for me (and for many others, I presume): to never, ever again be forced to shop downtown or deal with the ridiculous light-at-every-corner-even-at-off-peak-times traffic we find there.

The crossing will turn a 20-minute excursion to shopping in the West-end into a 10-minute excursion. Bring it on! And seriously: screw Springerville.

]]> By: Gordo http://www.kingstonist.com/2009/04/27/on-third-crossings-and-other-mythical-beasts/comment-page-1/#comment-954 Gordo Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:24:29 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=1264#comment-954 Harvey, given that this is Kingston, that will never happen. Heck, the third crossing has been an identified need for more than 100 years. I was born here and have grown accustomed to certain projects jumping into the public eye periodically, then gradually fading away. The bridge is one of them. Mind you, so was Block D and something finally happened. But, it keeping with Kingston politics, it's a throw-back to old waterfront projects and yet another nail in the coffin of the mythical downtown building height limitation. Harvey, given that this is Kingston, that will never happen. Heck, the third crossing has been an identified need for more than 100 years.

I was born here and have grown accustomed to certain projects jumping into the public eye periodically, then gradually fading away. The bridge is one of them. Mind you, so was Block D and something finally happened. But, it keeping with Kingston politics, it’s a throw-back to old waterfront projects and yet another nail in the coffin of the mythical downtown building height limitation.

]]> By: Harvey Kirkpatrick http://www.kingstonist.com/2009/04/27/on-third-crossings-and-other-mythical-beasts/comment-page-1/#comment-952 Harvey Kirkpatrick Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:25:19 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=1264#comment-952 I'm pushing for a three lane bridge, similar to the one that connects Halifax and Darthmouth. In that case, the direction of the middle lane can be switched during peak hours (ie morning and evening rush hour), thereby providing two lanes in the busier direction, and one going going the other way. I think that sort of thing would lend itself better than two two lane configuration, and it would be less expensive than four lanes. I’m pushing for a three lane bridge, similar to the one that connects Halifax and Darthmouth. In that case, the direction of the middle lane can be switched during peak hours (ie morning and evening rush hour), thereby providing two lanes in the busier direction, and one going going the other way. I think that sort of thing would lend itself better than two two lane configuration, and it would be less expensive than four lanes.

]]> By: kook http://www.kingstonist.com/2009/04/27/on-third-crossings-and-other-mythical-beasts/comment-page-1/#comment-950 kook Mon, 27 Apr 2009 17:46:14 +0000 http://www.kingstonist.com/?p=1264#comment-950 Typically, these processes need to go through some form of public consultation, such as that dictated by the Municipal Class Environmental Assessment (Municipal Engineers Association). The size and potential environmental impact of the project will dictate the degree of public consultation required. For a project of this magnitude, I would expect a full blown Schedule 'C' Class EA. Anyway, this indirectly answers your questions 3-5, IF the environmental assessment is following this protocol. Typically, public information centres will be held at various stages through the study, the first being to identify the "problem statement", then progressing through to presentation of the alternatives. So, you likely will have the chance to view alternatives and comment on them. A large public contingent against a particular alternative would likely be taken into consideration, but that all depends on who is running the show. The big thing is getting public to attend and take interest. Typically, these processes need to go through some form of public consultation, such as that dictated by the Municipal Class Environmental Assessment (Municipal Engineers Association). The size and potential environmental impact of the project will dictate the degree of public consultation required. For a project of this magnitude, I would expect a full blown Schedule ‘C’ Class EA.

Anyway, this indirectly answers your questions 3-5, IF the environmental assessment is following this protocol. Typically, public information centres will be held at various stages through the study, the first being to identify the “problem statement”, then progressing through to presentation of the alternatives. So, you likely will have the chance to view alternatives and comment on them. A large public contingent against a particular alternative would likely be taken into consideration, but that all depends on who is running the show. The big thing is getting public to attend and take interest.

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